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xander707
Got it, only the moderates should be willing to compromise. This is why we are where we are today.
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xander707
It is when its done by people with zero identification and with zero due process. And what do you call sending people who have never been convicted of any crime whatsoever to a foreign torture prison outside of US jurisdiction to serve a life sentence and never be seen from again? Because thats what our president and his administration is doing, with our tax dollars.
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xander707
In my view, it is the lack of compromise that has led us to where we are today. Clinton and Obama had their flaws, but both were objectively miles away better than Trump and George W Bush. Theres a much greater enemy to defeat in the here and now. Taking on centrists can come later on down the line, perhaps once republicans have regained their sanity and risking the election of one doesnt mean systematic oppression of anyone who isnt a cis white male.
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xander707
Ill vote for that same type of candidate in the primary too. I want the same things you want. But the reality is that candidate might not win the primary. And so now youve relinquished your vote so that jackbooted Nazi thugs retain power, because you couldnt get someone who promises to pack the Supreme Court or some other issue. Its simply selfish. There will be more opportunities down the line to push again for more leftist candidates and policies, but MAGA needs to be defeated no matter what. Or you might not even get the opportunity to try again later on at all.
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xander707
And far left liberals shouldnt do the same if a centrist wins?
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xander707
It absolutely is happening. That you dont know or pretend not to know isnt my problem. But youre legitimately the first person Ive ever seen deny it. Most on the right simply justify it by saying they shouldnt have been here in the first place. Might want to update your narrative software, bot.
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xander707
The point is that both moderates and those further left need to be prepared to compromise. If either decides to sit out the general because they are unhappy with who won, we all lose much more than if we had just banded together.
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xander707
That person would never win the democratic primary, so its a moot point. But for entertainment purposes, lets say they did, hypothetically. I think at that point, they are too similar and lack any meaningful difference. For all intents and purposes, they hold the exact same values, the exact same policy positions, at that point a 1% difference has no real meaningful impact. But vote Blue works off the assumption that the democratic primary is going to choose some democratic candidate with at least some progressive values, which will objectively make them a better candidate than Trump or anyone else in the GOP if you hold leftist views. That candidate may be Newsom, Harris, Waltz, Michelle Obama, AOC, Jeffries, Buttigieg etc. All these candidates have flaws. Some more than others. But at the end of the day, every single one would be miles better than what we are getting now. What Vote Blue is about, is acknowledging that whosoever the democrat voters end up choosing in the primary, we need to band together and win it in the general election. By all means, make your case in the primary, and fight for who you think is best. But if they lose, they lose. You try again next time but you dont sit on your hands, unless you truly believe that their flaw, like Newsom thinking trans athletes shouldnt be in normal sports, is the same or worse as everything Trump and GOP is doing to this country and her people right now.
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xander707
Simple question: if a far left candidate wins the primary, should moderates refuse to vote for that candidate? Why or why not?
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xander707
When the opposition are fascists kidnapping people off the streets and sending them to foreign torture prisons with zero convictions, it is the only reasonable position to take. When republicans regain their spines and their sanity, Ill gladly drop the mantra.
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