r/WhiteRhinoM:

u/xander707

Man not that I ever want to root for Zuck, but that would have been a timeless classic of watching Zuck fold Elons clothes with him still inside them.
u/xander707

You can refer to my previous comments addressing that, its a waste of time to go in circles and rehash whats already been covered. Trump is lying, period. You choose to take issue with random nobodies who, rightfully, call out his BS. When confronted with Trumps lying behavior, you resort to both sides type arguments and essentially give Trump a pass, and when youre confronted on that terrible logic you backpedal and pretend to see the nuance in judging Trumps bad actions, only to circle back to your original refrain that Trump isnt lying. The only person you are fooling, is yourself. Wake up. Youre capable of acknowledging that Trump lies and does bad things, and isnt the best choice for America as a leader or politician. You should reflect on if it makes more sense to get bent out of shape over random commenters trying to hold Trump accountable for his bullshit, or if it makes more sense to criticize the POTUS for his blatant bullshit. Directly and without trying to provide cover by saying basically all politicians do what Trump does.
u/xander707

And yet I have explained thoroughly how Trumps statement on Europe is a lie and purposefully misleading. It is Trump who isnt pro-fact at all. Which bothers you more; that random people on Reddit are anti-Trump, or that the President of the United States spends his time lying and misleading the American people on Twitter/X?
u/xander707

Your response to Trump clearly lying here is, Basically, every politician does it And that Trump isnt unique. But yet you acknowledge now that not all politicians are bad. So then I think we can agree its ok to criticize Trump without grouping in basically every politician, right? Its ok to acknowledge that Trump is doing something wrong and that in fact, it isnt something that basically every politician does and that there are better people who could be doing a better job of governing our nation. Right?
u/xander707

That is what follows logically from your premise. If every time Trump is called out for doing something bad, the only reaction you can muster is well, all politicians are bad you are then justifying the behavior, allowing it to continue, and failing to recognize that no, all politicians are not as bad as Trump. You are implicitly saying it doesnt matter because they are all the same. If they are all the same, then what I said is true; nothing matters. If it wasnt Trump lying to us now, itd be someone else lying to us and the result wouldnt be different. Unless you believe otherwise? Which is it; are all politicians equally bad? Or is perhaps Trump demonstrably worse and is in fact different and unique in many ways? If you cant bring yourself to criticize Trumps lies, crimes, and bad acts without also grouping in all other politicians as being equally guilty at the same time, how can you make the case that presidents and other politicians are in fact different from each other and can lead to differing outcomes, some better than others?
u/xander707

This is the laziest and dumbest take in all of politics. You may as well be arguing that all presidents and their administrations are exactly the same, no differences at all, and that elections make no difference, whos in charge of what agencies makes no difference, elections make no difference, and that nothing is impacted by anything. When you think like that, you just convince yourself that nothing can be changed and we have no power to change anything. Its demonstrably wrong, of course, but when thats your starting point in politics no one is going to convince you otherwise. Its up to you alone to realize thats not the way it is.
u/xander707

No one has done more to normalize lying to the American people than Trump. Its a bit of a cop out to concede that Trump is just doing what allegedly all politicians do. Notice, by contrast, that Biden never tried to bully the Fed, he never whined when the rates went up, he allowed Trumps nominee – Powell, to operate independently and take us to a soft landing which many economists were skeptical was even possible. Im not saying Biden was a paragon or never lied, but the difference between the two in regards to lying, misrepresenting, and trying to bully independent government agencies isnt even remotely comparable. Trump supporters dont hold Trump, or the GOP, to any standards whatsoever which allows the rampant lying to continue unabated.
u/xander707

Is a lie by omission a lie or not? I understand that the context revolving around this topic is complex and overwhelming for you, but Im trying to help you understand why the mean smelly libs jump all over Trump for this crap. Its not simply because he said 9 rather than 8. Thats silly. Its because hes completely misrepresenting the subject on purpose in order to mislead people. He also just doesnt understand or respect the necessity for interest rates, and the necessity for an independent fed to do its job uninhibited by political pressure. Additionally, since when does Trump give a flying fuck what the EU does? Suppose the EU has instead raised rates 9 times over the recent time period; you think hed be advocating for the US to raise rates and follow in their steps then? Absolutely not. The left sees through Trumps BS. Maybe one day you will, too.
u/xander707

I mean the info is quite relevant to what you are choosing to discuss. Hes lying because hes leaving out that the US has lowered rates 8 times in the same time period since 2016. And even that doesnt hardly begin to tell the whole story. Its highly reductive thinking, and its absolutely a lie by omission. Furthermore, if the economy were really BOOMING like Trump repeatedly claims, that would mean right now would be a terrible time to lower rates. If anything, the fed should think about raising them.
u/xander707

And how many times has US cut rates since 2016? And by how many basis points? Funny how Trump and MAGA leaves that out. Not only are Trumps numbers wrong and omitting data, its just an ass comparison. Trump literally just doesnt believe in interest rates. If the economy is hot, he thinks they should be zero. If the economy is stagnant, zero. Economy hurting? Zero. Maybe even negative rates, he advocated for that in his first term. We should be jumping over him for not allowing the fed to do its job and remain independent, and for him not understanding the economics of interest rates.