In my book all those others were pop, mainstream. I was into Urge Overkill, Butthole Surfers, Mudhoney, Dinosaur Jr, Janes Addiction, L7, Big Black, Nick Cave, Mercury Rev, The Jesus Lizard, Boss Hog, Sonic Youth, the Flaming Lips, Union Carbide Productions and yeah, Nirvana. And the classics: Can, MC5, Big Starr, Iggy, Devo