You find plenty of both, the phytochemists and the spiritualists. I come across mostly spiritualists among fellow herbal medicine users. For example, my local herb shop hosts workshops. One of them is “plant meditations”. An example would be a “Lemon Balm meditation”. Instead of learning about lemon balm, why it works, and how to use it people sit around visualizing lemon balm. That isn’t going to open up ordinary people to herbal medicine. It is 2025. Can we separate the superstition ( no offense ) from the herbal medicine subculture?