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u/xander707

Not entirely sure why you got downvoted but yes, more people should be able to easily connect these dots. Trump and Republicans are going to further dismantle healthcare; we can pretty much say good bye to protections for pre-existing conditions and hello to even higher costs. They are also coming for our social security and any other possible social safety nets they can raid for profit. If this event was a symptom of the societal backlash against the elite class walking all over us, its about to get much, much worse.
u/xander707

Yep. They either find the actual killer, or they find someone to pin it on so they put the ruling class at ease that they did their jobs and will catch anyone who would dare do something like that in the future.
u/xander707

Thousands of people die every day and we dont think twice about the vast majority of them. Hell, we probably dont even hear or know about them. We only know about this one because hes a rich wealthy elitist. Likewise, when one of us is murdered in cold blood there isnt a big press conference where the leadership announces the deployment of dogs, helicopters, drones, planes, etc because again, thats something they do for the rich and/or famous. Not us regular, worthless nobodies. Its not about hating this CEO as an individual. Maybe he played a role in denying insurance claims, or maybe he was genuinely a good person. Irrelevant. Its about hating the system that rewards individuals who climb over others to the top with obscene amounts of wealth and power and how the justice system favors them. Its mostly crooks at the top and we all know it. and we just elected a convicted felon billionaire as president. People are fed up with the rich and powerful getting away with everything and taking all that they can for themselves leaving less and less for the rest.
u/xander707

I mean you didnt say the alien war would be on earth. How do we know there isnt an alien war raging, right now, somewhere in the galaxy?
u/xander707

Its hard to fathom that much money. The best way Ive seen it worded is the difference between a million dollars and a billion dollarsis about a billion dollars. Now think about how far removed from just a million dollars the average person is, and how many billions someone like Elon Musk has. Im not against people being rich. But money is a finite resource; theres only so much of it at any one time and we just see wealth disparity increase year after year and now we see people like Elon who have accumulated so much wealth he can simply buy his politicians, elections, social media spaces, etc. anything he doesnt like he can go ahead and control, if he wants to. And no matter how many billions he spends or loses, his day-to-day life will never change in any meaningful way whatsoever. If he lost your life-time earnings in a single day he probably wouldnt even know it, and would make it all back in literally about 10 minutes passing.
u/xander707

Once again missing the point. Johnelle Hunt became a billionaire by starting a successful trucking company. What immoral act did she do? Judy Faulkner became a billionaire by developing an in-house patient record keeping program that the medical industry uses. Shes never made an acquisition and develops all the software in-house, and has also pledged to (eventually) give 99% of her assets to charitable foundations. Wheres her requisite immorality? Taylor Swift became a billionaire by making music and performing concerts/tours. Immoral? I can come up with many more examples of billionaires who got there through normal business means, no Chinese child labor required. It is silly to try to convince people that you can only become a billionaire through illicit or evil means when thats patently untrue. Furthermore, its just not the issue at hand. Once you get over yourself and realize billionaires who got there ethically can and do exist, that does nothing to subvert the real issue at hand; a billion dollars is too much of a finite resource to rest in the hands of a single individual, no matter how they attained it. If we dont cut the nonsensical red herrings out of the discussion and get directly to the meat, we make addressing this issue harder than it needs to be.
u/xander707

Its not about how massive a billion dollars is. Someone born into it didnt do anything unfair to anyone else. Someone who innovated a product that the majority of people want to pay for, when there are 330 million+ people just in the domestic market, and obviously much more foreign, also not hard to see how someone can accumulate massive amounts of wealth just in the course of normal business dealings. Again a combination of luck and innovation, being the first to market with an idea thats popular with consumers, can lead to such massive wealth without necessarily doing anything immoral or fucking people over. Try reading the rest of my comment before having a knee jerk reaction. It is because I understand how massive a billion dollars is that I said and will now repeat its not about what it took to become a billionaire, it is the act of hoarding a billion dollars or more in itself that is immoral. Whether a billionaire got there fairly or not is not relevant. Having that much money and not putting a significant amount back into society is whats immoral and deserves focus. Focusing on the alleged immoral means is a red herring and disrupts the discourse around the immorality of the existence of billionaires regardless of how they became one.
u/xander707

I mean having the winning idea at the right time, being both lucky and innovative could lead to someone becoming a successful billionaire without necessarily acting immorally. That being said, most of the billionaire class were born into wealth/connections or did act immorally to get there. But I think rather than focusing on the harm it potentially took to become a billionaire, isnt as important as focusing on the fact that simply hoarding that amount of wealth is in itself the act that is immoral. Whether you fucked people over or not to get there should largely be irrelevant. Once there, you have a moral obligation to put money back into society. Whether through philanthropic means, taxes, etc. but as we should all be aware by now, the vast majority of billionaires, despite having more wealth than they could spend in several thousand lifetimes and massive unchecked power/influence on media and politics, they are never satisfied. They continue to hoard more and more money, which is a finite resource, leaving less for us as individuals or as a collective society that should have more and better entitlement programs/social safety nets.
u/xander707

Brother the popular vote doesnt even matter why bring it up lol. As I said previously, even our votes are not equal. Thats why I brought it up and you are illustrating here how that is objectively true. This is just another example to add to the pile of how the system is rigged against us. This is the exact kind of thing that has many people riled up. But to my point about the election, it was objectively a thin margin if you are looking at what actual human beings voted, not electoral college, which is whats relevant in this conversation. Its not the electoral college thats going to rise up against the 1% with civil disobedience and unrest. Its the 48.4% of people who dont want the rich to further erode our healthcare, our social security, our votes, etc. The fact that people on the right also have no sympathy for the UHC ceo is a very bad sign for those at the top, because it means there is bipartisan agreement against the rich millionaires and billionaires that are destroying the classes below them. Those people, as brainwashed as they are, might one day soon recognize the likes of Trump and Elon Musk are exactly the same elitists that are actively hurting us for their own gain.
u/xander707

Its the thinnest popular vote victory since Bush 2000, which was also a thin victory, and few elections prior to that were won by thinner margins. So yeah, despite the narrative Trump and friends would love to spin about landslides, the American people could hardly be more divided about him.